Publish to Newswire
Add an EventFrom the Open-Publishing Calendar
From the Open-Publishing Newswire
Indybay Feature
Defend Hatem Bazian!
have received the following complaints submitted to the university
over my speech at the emergency demo held at the UN Plaza in SF. It seems
that those recording the event are working for some group which is
attempting to make a major issue of it.
over my speech at the emergency demo held at the UN Plaza in SF. It seems
that those recording the event are working for some group which is
attempting to make a major issue of it.
From: "Hatem Bazian" <hats [at] igc.org>
Subject: FW: Concern over UC Berkeley Lecturer remarks
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:19:54 -0700
I have received the following complaints submitted to the university
over my speech at the emergency demo held at the UN Plaza in SF. It seems
that those recording the event are working for some group which is
attempting to make a major issue of it.
Hatem
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:16:46 -0700
To: "John Cummins" <jcummins [at] berkeley.edu>
From: Stephanie McLemore <smclem [at] berkeley.edu>
Subject: Fwd: Concern over UC Berkeley Lecturer remarks
<chanclor [at] calmail.berkeley.edu>
From: <zzx375 [at] cox.net>
To: chanclor [at] berkeley.edu
Subject: Concern over UC Berkeley Lecturer remarks
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004
Dear Chancellor Berdahl:
I have recently had the opportunity to read remarks attributed to
one of UC Berkeley's faculty members, Hatem Bazian, at a Saturday (4/10) peace rally
in San Francisco.
The remarks to which I refer are as follows (edited for the sake
of brevity):
"...Well, we've been watching intifada in Palestine, we've been watchingan uprising in
Iraq, and the question is that what are we doing? How come we don't have an intifada
in this country?...and it's about time that we have an intifada in this country that
change[s] fundamentally the political dynamics in here.
And we know every- They're gonna say some Palestinian being too radical-well, you
haven't seen radicalism yet!"
Assuming that the above quote is correct, I cannot help but be concerned that these
comments appear to advocate armed over-throw of the US government by connecting
intifada in that region known as Palestine and in Iraq with the absence of such a
phenomenon here. As we all know, events in Palestine and Iraq have been recently
characterized by suicide bombings, armed uprisings, and deaths to many, including
the innocent who have not taken part in any hostilities.
Regardless of one's personal political points of view on current events, any
reasonable person cannot believe that anything positive comes
from such occurances as we have seen in the Middle East.
While I realize that Mr. Bazian was undoubtedly speaking as an individual, and not as
a spokesperson for UC Berkeley, his remarks still reflect on the insttitution and
all of
its employees. I value free-speech as much as any person, but there are limits to
what free-speech entails, such as yelling fire in a crowded movie
theater, or what might be easily interpreted as advocating the armed over
throw of the US government. I wonder if alumni and others who donate to
the university will disagree with me.
Respectfully,
John C. Langston
205 S Yellowood
Broken Arrow, OK 74012
zzx375 [at] cox.net
Jenny Hanson, Interim Executive Assistant to the Chancellor
(From January 5 - May 3, during Stephanie McLemore's leave)
Chancellor's Immediate Office
200 California Hall # 1500
Tel: (510) 642-7464
Fax: (510) 643-5499
Subject: FW: Concern over UC Berkeley Lecturer remarks
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 16:19:54 -0700
I have received the following complaints submitted to the university
over my speech at the emergency demo held at the UN Plaza in SF. It seems
that those recording the event are working for some group which is
attempting to make a major issue of it.
Hatem
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:16:46 -0700
To: "John Cummins" <jcummins [at] berkeley.edu>
From: Stephanie McLemore <smclem [at] berkeley.edu>
Subject: Fwd: Concern over UC Berkeley Lecturer remarks
<chanclor [at] calmail.berkeley.edu>
From: <zzx375 [at] cox.net>
To: chanclor [at] berkeley.edu
Subject: Concern over UC Berkeley Lecturer remarks
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004
Dear Chancellor Berdahl:
I have recently had the opportunity to read remarks attributed to
one of UC Berkeley's faculty members, Hatem Bazian, at a Saturday (4/10) peace rally
in San Francisco.
The remarks to which I refer are as follows (edited for the sake
of brevity):
"...Well, we've been watching intifada in Palestine, we've been watchingan uprising in
Iraq, and the question is that what are we doing? How come we don't have an intifada
in this country?...and it's about time that we have an intifada in this country that
change[s] fundamentally the political dynamics in here.
And we know every- They're gonna say some Palestinian being too radical-well, you
haven't seen radicalism yet!"
Assuming that the above quote is correct, I cannot help but be concerned that these
comments appear to advocate armed over-throw of the US government by connecting
intifada in that region known as Palestine and in Iraq with the absence of such a
phenomenon here. As we all know, events in Palestine and Iraq have been recently
characterized by suicide bombings, armed uprisings, and deaths to many, including
the innocent who have not taken part in any hostilities.
Regardless of one's personal political points of view on current events, any
reasonable person cannot believe that anything positive comes
from such occurances as we have seen in the Middle East.
While I realize that Mr. Bazian was undoubtedly speaking as an individual, and not as
a spokesperson for UC Berkeley, his remarks still reflect on the insttitution and
all of
its employees. I value free-speech as much as any person, but there are limits to
what free-speech entails, such as yelling fire in a crowded movie
theater, or what might be easily interpreted as advocating the armed over
throw of the US government. I wonder if alumni and others who donate to
the university will disagree with me.
Respectfully,
John C. Langston
205 S Yellowood
Broken Arrow, OK 74012
zzx375 [at] cox.net
Jenny Hanson, Interim Executive Assistant to the Chancellor
(From January 5 - May 3, during Stephanie McLemore's leave)
Chancellor's Immediate Office
200 California Hall # 1500
Tel: (510) 642-7464
Fax: (510) 643-5499
Add Your Comments
Comments
(Hide Comments)
http://www.calpatriot.org/article.php?articleID=61
"To keep yourself on track, why not make your exercise regimen fun and exciting? Try exercising your right to bear arms at the anti-war protests that frequent your neighborhood or campus."
"To keep yourself on track, why not make your exercise regimen fun and exciting? Try exercising your right to bear arms at the anti-war protests that frequent your neighborhood or campus."
" "...Well, we've been watching intifada in Palestine, we've been watchingan uprising in
Iraq, and the question is that what are we doing? How come we don't have an intifada
in this country?...and it's about time that we have an intifada in this country that
change[s] fundamentally the political dynamics in here.
And we know every- They're gonna say some Palestinian being too radical-well, you
haven't seen radicalism yet!""
This speaks volumes about the "peace" movement...
Iraq, and the question is that what are we doing? How come we don't have an intifada
in this country?...and it's about time that we have an intifada in this country that
change[s] fundamentally the political dynamics in here.
And we know every- They're gonna say some Palestinian being too radical-well, you
haven't seen radicalism yet!""
This speaks volumes about the "peace" movement...
saying that you want a global intifada is not such a bad thing if you actually know what the definition of the word is.... there is a difference between a jihad and intifada ... Intifada in my understanding of the word means a people's uprising ... and yes a lot of us in the peace movement would like a global uprising of people against all the policies of empire that are exemplified best in the regimes of bush, blair, and sharon
for a global intifada...
for a global intifada...
Intifada
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Intifada (also Intefadah or Intifadah; from Arabic: انتفاضة "shaking off") is the popular name for two recent campaigns by the Palestinians against Israel. It is one of the most significant aspects in recent years of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Both intifadas started as campaigns of civil disobedience by the Palestinians and escalated into a tit-for-tat cycle of violent reprisals and counter reprisals between Israelis and Palestinians.
The first Intifada began in 1987, with a decrease in violence in 1991 and a more complete end with the signing of the Oslo accords (August 1993) and the creation of the Palestinian Authority. The second intifada, which has come to be called the al-Aqsa Intifada, began in September 2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intifada
Noun 1. intifadah - an uprising by Palestinian Arabs (in both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank) against Israel in the late 1980s and again in 2000; "the first intifada ended when Israel granted limited autonomy to the Palestine National Authority in 1993"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/intifadah
intifadah (noun) -
1. an uprising by Palestinian Arabs (in both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank) against Israel in the late 1980s and again in 2000
"the first intifada ended when Israel granted limited autonomy to the Palestine National Authority in 1993"
Synonyms: intifada
http://define.ansme.com/words/i/intifadah.html
Intifada (also Intefadah or Intifadah ; from Arabic: "shaking off") is the popular name for two recent campaigns by the Palestinians against Israel. It is one of the most significant aspects in recent years of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Both intifadas started as campaigns of civil disobedience by the Palestinians and escalated into a tit-for-tat cycle of violent reprisals and counter reprisals between Israelis and Palestinians.
The first Intifada began in 1987, with a decrease in violence in 1991 and a more complete end with the signing of the Oslo accords (August 1993) and the creation of the Palestinian Authority. The second intifada, which has come to be called the al-Aqsa Intifada, began in September 2000.
http://www.nebulasearch.com/encyclopedia/article/Intifada.html
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Intifada (also Intefadah or Intifadah; from Arabic: انتفاضة "shaking off") is the popular name for two recent campaigns by the Palestinians against Israel. It is one of the most significant aspects in recent years of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Both intifadas started as campaigns of civil disobedience by the Palestinians and escalated into a tit-for-tat cycle of violent reprisals and counter reprisals between Israelis and Palestinians.
The first Intifada began in 1987, with a decrease in violence in 1991 and a more complete end with the signing of the Oslo accords (August 1993) and the creation of the Palestinian Authority. The second intifada, which has come to be called the al-Aqsa Intifada, began in September 2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intifada
Noun 1. intifadah - an uprising by Palestinian Arabs (in both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank) against Israel in the late 1980s and again in 2000; "the first intifada ended when Israel granted limited autonomy to the Palestine National Authority in 1993"
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/intifadah
intifadah (noun) -
1. an uprising by Palestinian Arabs (in both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank) against Israel in the late 1980s and again in 2000
"the first intifada ended when Israel granted limited autonomy to the Palestine National Authority in 1993"
Synonyms: intifada
http://define.ansme.com/words/i/intifadah.html
Intifada (also Intefadah or Intifadah ; from Arabic: "shaking off") is the popular name for two recent campaigns by the Palestinians against Israel. It is one of the most significant aspects in recent years of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Both intifadas started as campaigns of civil disobedience by the Palestinians and escalated into a tit-for-tat cycle of violent reprisals and counter reprisals between Israelis and Palestinians.
The first Intifada began in 1987, with a decrease in violence in 1991 and a more complete end with the signing of the Oslo accords (August 1993) and the creation of the Palestinian Authority. The second intifada, which has come to be called the al-Aqsa Intifada, began in September 2000.
http://www.nebulasearch.com/encyclopedia/article/Intifada.html
Why Intifada?
What inspires a nation in their entirety to Intifada?
Human Rights
Israel denies full human rights to the Palestinians. In the meantime, Jewish settlers enjoy the full privileges and protection of the Jewish state.
For example, the Palestinians have to seek the permission of the Israelis as they go about
their daily lives.
Palestinians are regularly stopped and questioned by the army and police. Travel outside and within Palestine requires an "occupation signed permit" - this also occurs when Palestinians need to travel to pray.
Many Palestinians rightly feel degraded by such treatment. On occasions, bribes are sought from passers by.
Expulsion
There are currently five million Palestinians living outside Palestine as refugees.
Many left as a result of the Israeli violence. Others left after the occupation to pursue work or studies.
When those people attempted to return to their homes and towns, Israel closed its borders and denied them entry....this situation continues today.
Theft
Over the years, Palestinian homes and villages have been cleared by the Israelis to make way for their settlements.
Siege
Israel controls all the ports and roads into and out of Palestine. Israel has not allowed the Palestinians to build their own port.
Every shipment of food and medicine must pass under the Israelis supervision and approval. On many occasions Israel collectively punishes the Palestinians by closing these roads and ports.
Torture
Israeli law effectively permits the use of torture. Their statute books refer to it is "physical pressure".
Killing
The Jewish state has killed tens of thousands of Arabs and Palestinians.
Leniency is often granted to those who commit such crimes in Israeli trials. Three soldiers were ordered by an Israeli court to pay the family of a Palestinian they killed a compensation of one cent, divided between the three.
An Israeli was sentenced to serve a life sentence for killing a nine years old boy
(whose head he crushed with a machine gun).
He was released from jail after two years.
Holy shrines
Israel has desecrated the sanctuary of Muslim and Christian shrines regularly. Aqsa mosque was nearly burned down in 1969. It is still threatened with demolition by the Israelis. Frequently, Muslims are prevented from attending prayers by the Israeli army.
Conclusion
Palestine is our home.
We were born there.
We lived there.
We loved there.
We hate no one, but we despise injustice.
In peace we believe, for freedom we fight.
We have a right to live in peace in our Palestine. This is why there is Intifada.
http://www.intifada.com/w.html
What inspires a nation in their entirety to Intifada?
Human Rights
Israel denies full human rights to the Palestinians. In the meantime, Jewish settlers enjoy the full privileges and protection of the Jewish state.
For example, the Palestinians have to seek the permission of the Israelis as they go about
their daily lives.
Palestinians are regularly stopped and questioned by the army and police. Travel outside and within Palestine requires an "occupation signed permit" - this also occurs when Palestinians need to travel to pray.
Many Palestinians rightly feel degraded by such treatment. On occasions, bribes are sought from passers by.
Expulsion
There are currently five million Palestinians living outside Palestine as refugees.
Many left as a result of the Israeli violence. Others left after the occupation to pursue work or studies.
When those people attempted to return to their homes and towns, Israel closed its borders and denied them entry....this situation continues today.
Theft
Over the years, Palestinian homes and villages have been cleared by the Israelis to make way for their settlements.
Siege
Israel controls all the ports and roads into and out of Palestine. Israel has not allowed the Palestinians to build their own port.
Every shipment of food and medicine must pass under the Israelis supervision and approval. On many occasions Israel collectively punishes the Palestinians by closing these roads and ports.
Torture
Israeli law effectively permits the use of torture. Their statute books refer to it is "physical pressure".
Killing
The Jewish state has killed tens of thousands of Arabs and Palestinians.
Leniency is often granted to those who commit such crimes in Israeli trials. Three soldiers were ordered by an Israeli court to pay the family of a Palestinian they killed a compensation of one cent, divided between the three.
An Israeli was sentenced to serve a life sentence for killing a nine years old boy
(whose head he crushed with a machine gun).
He was released from jail after two years.
Holy shrines
Israel has desecrated the sanctuary of Muslim and Christian shrines regularly. Aqsa mosque was nearly burned down in 1969. It is still threatened with demolition by the Israelis. Frequently, Muslims are prevented from attending prayers by the Israeli army.
Conclusion
Palestine is our home.
We were born there.
We lived there.
We loved there.
We hate no one, but we despise injustice.
In peace we believe, for freedom we fight.
We have a right to live in peace in our Palestine. This is why there is Intifada.
http://www.intifada.com/w.html
Hatem spoke about grassroots polical activism and learning, not terrorism.
Strange how I hear nothing about the fact that there are plenty of Muslims and arabs Living in ISRAEL with full rights.
Strange how I don't hear a thing about the fact that IN ISRAEL, there are statues or christian, Jewish, and islamic belief standing side by side..........................Strange I don't hear or see anything from the so called SMART PEOPLE, about the fact that these places of worship are treated like garbage by muslims, (unless there's a camera around).
STRANGE, I don't see anyone talking about the fact that the MUSLIM houses of worship have been used to house GUNS, and amunition.
I would be more fair about what I think, If the so called SMART PEOPLE were more fair about what's really going on..........
and Finaly...................It's strange how as a young musician I found myself fighting with all you so called SMART PEOPLE.
But now I've come to the conclusion that the smart people are not so smart after all.
I hope you wake up !
C. Valtin
Strange how I don't hear a thing about the fact that IN ISRAEL, there are statues or christian, Jewish, and islamic belief standing side by side..........................Strange I don't hear or see anything from the so called SMART PEOPLE, about the fact that these places of worship are treated like garbage by muslims, (unless there's a camera around).
STRANGE, I don't see anyone talking about the fact that the MUSLIM houses of worship have been used to house GUNS, and amunition.
I would be more fair about what I think, If the so called SMART PEOPLE were more fair about what's really going on..........
and Finaly...................It's strange how as a young musician I found myself fighting with all you so called SMART PEOPLE.
But now I've come to the conclusion that the smart people are not so smart after all.
I hope you wake up !
C. Valtin
They do not have full rights. The right to buy land, for example, is severly restricted. Neither are they allowed to have their refugee family members come to live with them. Yet Jews who have never seen Israel can show up by plane, buy land that day, and live there as long as they want.
We are 100% volunteer and depend on your participation to sustain our efforts!
Donate
$330.00 donated
in the past month
Get Involved
If you'd like to help with maintaining or developing the website, contact us.
Publish
Publish your stories and upcoming events on Indybay.
Topics
More
Search Indybay's Archives
Advanced Search
►
▼
IMC Network