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Seismic Event: New Flight 93 info out

by Wednesday
Found this week at Centre for Research on Globalisation: A sonic boom recorded by an earthquake monitoring station serves to place a jet fighter very close to United Flight 93 on 9/11.
Full story is at this page.
by Zeppo Marx
It's possible that a fighter jet was in close proximity to Flight 93. Eyewitness accounts of the crash, however, state that the plane was not streaming smoke or fire. A couple folks apparently saw the actual crash, and the aircraft simply nose-dived into the ground at high speed. See here:

http://www.911digitalarchive.org/stories/details/1038

As an illustration, they found the flight data recorder 15-20 feet down, under the bottom of the large crater the plane formed when it hit.

I remember seeing an aerial photo of the crash site - the plane hit so hard, the leading edges of the wings left impressions in the soil, as did the tail and engines. They found debris miles away.

In short, get a freakin' grip.
by Zeppo Marx
Damn. Wrong link. Try this one.

http://www.911digitalarchive.org/stories/details/1032
by seismic event
" It's wings tilted back and fourth ." is what it says there - sounds like it was damaged already to me. Aren't those planes normally fixed-wing aircraft? I never heard of a swept wing passenger liner before!!!!!!
by LoN
The airplane flew directly over (no more than 100 feet above) a major highway with slow moving traffic that that sits directly next to the Pentagon. Eyewitness accounts are very specific and include a groundskeeper who had stood (ducked) underneath the aircraft just before it crashed.

These photos show you the close proximity of the highway to the Pentagon.
The Pentagon - December 28, 2000: http://www.spaceimaging.com/ikonos/pentagon_before800.jpg
The Pentagon - September 12, 2001: http://www.spaceimaging.com/ikonos/Pentagon_after_800.jpg

Don't believe me? Just read the transcripts from the http://www.unansweredquestions.org press conference:

"Q: [inaudible] from Vision TV in Toronto. I don't want to diminish the importance of the exchange that's just taken place. I happen to agree very much with that. But my question is more specific and it's for John Judge, it so happens. I believe we're in a bit of a disinformation soup post-9/11, that is not only is the Bush regime taking various evasive and deceptive actions to throw up smoke screens and distract people and so on, but information is going around various places which people in this room might be inclined to believe and it may or may not be so. So very specifically, John, on the internet the other day I saw that you had written something, or ostensibly you had, that you saw the plane go into the Pentagon.

John Judge: I had written that there were eyewitnesses that saw the plane go into the Pentagon because I was responding to a best selling French book and some other web sites that claim that Flight 77 never went into the Pentagon. I wrote back to the first person who wrote me about it and said, "Perhaps you don't live in DC." A close personal friend of mine was a flight attendant on Flight 77. I thought she was dead that day. I subsequently found out she was home taking care of her father. She lost her best friend at work and the whole crew there that she worked with on the flight. There have been autopsies of the bodies and to me there is absolutely no question that the plane went into the Pentagon. But I wasn't an eyewitness but I was an ear-witness. My windows shook. I live right across the river in Anacostia. But there were eyewitnesses that saw the plane. There were some people who said they thought they saw something else but I believe that there's no question that the plane went into the Pentagon. And I think we've personally been in a disinformation soup for a lot of time prior to September 11th and it's been a fact since the inception of the National Security State in 1947 and the beginning of classification of information, that we have lost our own history in this country.

Q: [Questioner from Vision TV] I would tend to agree with that too. Could I just ask an ancillary question, having heard yours. Probably everybody in this room has seen the pictures at the web site that seem to indicate that no airliner could have gone in, so would you comment on that web site?

John Judge: I have seen some of the photos but I'm just saying, I mean, I think that the preponderance of evidence if you look at it seriously suggests that Flight 77 went into the Pentagon. If Flight 77 went someplace else, I mean, that raises so many people being involved in a cover up that even I can't, I mean, and they like to call me a conspiracy theorist, which is fine as long as you call everyone else a coincidence theorist. But I'd like to say for the coincidence theorists here in relation to the Pentagon, if you sleep better thinking incompetence and coincidence, that then you have spent 13 trillion dollars since the end of World War II on a massive defense and intelligence system that cannot defend its own building."


John Judge is an independent investigator and researcher and a cofounders of the National Coalition on Political Assassinations. The NCPA is a network of independent researchers and investigators working with the John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King assassinations. They are responsible for passage of the JFK Records Act which to date has released over six million files, the largest release of classified documents in American history.
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