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I do not support israel but palestine does not exist

by mary
I do not support Israel policy but Palestine has never existed.
by Joseph Farah
Joseph Farah , Between the lines
2000 WorldNetDaily.com

This is a copy of an article

I've been quiet since Israel erupted in fighting spurred by disputes over the Temple Mount.

Until now, I haven't even bothered to say, "See, I told you so." But I can't resist any longer. I feel compelled to remind you of the column I wrote just a couple weeks before the latest uprising. Yeah, folks, I predicted it. That's OK. Hold your applause.

After all, I wish I had been wrong. More than 80 people have been killed since the current fighting in and around Jerusalem began. And for what?

If you believe what you read in most news sources, Palestinians want a homeland and Muslims want control over sites they consider holy. Simple, right?

Well, as an Arab-American journalist who has spent some time in the Middle East dodging more than my share of rocks and mortar shells, I've got to tell you that these are just phony excuses for the rioting, trouble-making and land-grabbing.

Isn't it interesting that prior to the 1967 Arab-Israeli war, there was no serious movement for a Palestinian homeland?

"Well, Farah," you might say, "that was before the Israelis seized the West Bank and Old Jerusalem."

That's true. In the Six-Day War, Israel captured Judea, Samaria and East Jerusalem. But they didn't capture these territories from Yasser Arafat. They captured them from Jordan's King Hussein. I can't help but wonder why all these Palestinians suddenly discovered their national identity after Israel won the war.

The truth is that Palestine is no more real than Never-Never Land. The first time the name was used was in 70 A.D. when the Romans committed genocide against the Jews, smashed the Temple and declared the land of Israel would be no more. From then on, the Romans promised, it would be known as Palestine. The name was derived from the Philistines, a Goliathian people conquered by the Jews centuries earlier. It was a way for the Romans to add insult to injury. They also tried to change the name of Jerusalem to Aelia Capitolina, but that had even less staying power.

Palestine has never existed -- before or since -- as an autonomous entity. It was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their homeland.

There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc. Keep in mind that the Arabs control 99.9 percent of the Middle East lands. Israel represents one-tenth of 1 percent of the landmass.

But that's too much for the Arabs. They want it all. And that is ultimately what the fighting in Israel is about today. Greed. Pride. Envy. Covetousness. No matter how many land concessions the Israelis make, it will never be enough.

What about Islam's holy sites? There are none in Jerusalem.

Shocked? You should be. I don't expect you will ever hear this brutal truth from anyone else in the international media. It's just not politically correct.

I know what you're going to say: "Farah, the Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem represent Islam's third most holy sites."

Not true. In fact, the Koran says nothing about Jerusalem. It mentions Mecca hundreds of times. It mentions Medina countless times. It never mentions Jerusalem. With good reason. There is no historical evidence to suggest Mohammed ever visited Jerusalem.

So how did Jerusalem become the third holiest site of Islam? Muslims today cite a vague passage in the Koran, the seventeenth Sura, entitled "The Night Journey." It relates that in a dream or a vision Mohammed was carried by night "from the sacred temple to the temple that is most remote, whose precinct we have blessed, that we might show him our signs. ..." In the seventh century, some Muslims identified the two temples mentioned in this verse as being in Mecca and Jerusalem. And that's as close as Islam's connection with Jerusalem gets -- myth, fantasy, wishful thinking. Meanwhile, Jews can trace their roots in Jerusalem back to the days of Abraham.

The latest round of violence in Israel erupted when Likud Party leader Ariel Sharon tried to visit the Temple Mount, the foundation of the Temple built by Solomon. It is the holiest site for Jews. Sharon and his entourage were met with stones and threats. I know what it's like. I've been there. Can you imagine what it is like for Jews to be threatened, stoned and physically kept out of the holiest site in Judaism?

So what's the solution to the Middle East mayhem? Well, frankly, I don't think there is a man-made solution to the violence. But, if there is one, it needs to begin with truth. Pretending will only lead to more chaos. Treating a 5,000-year-old birthright backed by overwhelming historical and archaeological evidence equally with illegitimate claims, wishes and wants gives diplomacy and peacekeeping a bad name.
by intifada
"Sharon and his entourage were met with stones and threats"

Let's be clear about what "Sharon and his entourage" means. Sharon is a clear war criminal based on his massacres in the early 80s. Sharon brought with him to the temple how many riot police? In fact he brought a small army with him as a direct slap in the face towards Palestinians who suffer the indignities of occupation. Here's a clue. Anyone who writes something about the conflict there without addressing the occupation, the checkpoints, the daily humiliation and economic terror waged against Palestinians is talking about only half of the story. Get this right-wing shit off of indymedia.
by dutchy
this indeed is a load of crap if one does not want to see the daily struggle of the palestinians.
if palestine never existed,then this is a good time to make it happen!
sharon is a murderer, its that simple
by ML
Well, the Palestinian and Israeli people deserve a safe place to live. I guess if I follow your logic, the United Stated doesn't exist either. Being "American" doesn't exist.
by Eric
Yeah! get this right wing opinion out of here! Let's censor the truth! Palestinians don't need freedom of speach! They don't need free elections or term limits! Freedom should not be a part of the Palestinian vocabulary!

Sharon may be a war criminal (your opinion and propoganda) but he IS the freely elected leader of the only recognized government in the region. If the "PALESTINIANS" don't like it then get the hell out. Go live with your ARAB brothers.

WAKE UP AMERICA!! KNOW WHY WE SUPPORT ISRAEL!!
by Steve
Criticising a people based on criticising the corporate media disinformation about those same people is a neat trick.

Instead of a European settler state, armed to the teeth by the US for decades now, practicing an increasingly violent apartheid against Palestinians, "Mary" wants us to understand that the Intifada is just a case of greedy little brown people making trouble for rational white people.

Racism, pure and simple. Just as attacking Affirmative Action is racist even when Clarence Thomas is the leading the charge, so is Arab-bashing racist even when coming from the pen of an Arab.

I'm sure "Mary" could also find a few self-hating ex-gays to preach to us about the joys of heterosexual family life.

Every oppressed community is divided into the majority of people struggling for justice and a minority within the community which benefits from the status quo.

Mr. Farah, while waiting for God to make all roads smooth, has clearly sided with the status quo. A totally worthless article.
by Mary
This article has nothing to do with Sharon being a war criminal. What about all the palestinians in power who are war criminals like arafat who was born in Morroco as well as is cronies who were born in other arab nations.
by the burningman
There was never a "nation" called "Iroquois." There was never a nation called "Africa." The Romans named that too. But being a conquered people doesn't negate the democratic rights of the people who live there.

But according to your logic, Palestine most certainly existed. You say the Romans named the area Palestine. They also named Britain. But you go on to say that the ancient hebrews had conquered the Philistines centuries before the Romans destroyed Jerusalem. So, before the INITIAL conquest by hebrews, the region was Palestine.

What that means is that the oldest recorded inhabitants are the Philistines.

But so what? Unless we're all adopting the fascist logic of ethnic states, who cares? The issue is democracy. Let every resident and returned refugee from the region have rights to vote, form parties, own land, associate and worship as the chose to or not.

Only Zionists oppose this. They want a government that openly excludes Arabs from any rights before the state.

Palestine will win. Fascism always fails.
by Eric
Whatever! This whole discussion is moot. Who cares who lived where and when? Who cares what Roman's brother's nephew's philistine cousin did 3000 years ago.

The Jews live there now. Where I live we say "Posession is nine-tenths of the law!" Or better yet, "F*ck 'em and feed 'em fish heads!"

If the damn "Palestinians" would agree to it they'd let 'em have their own state, free to run it however, whenever, wherever. They won't agree because they want all of Israel for themselves and the Jews eradicated. Letting them have a say in the government of Israel is like putting Piranah in your swimming pool. Hey, Piranah need a place to live too but try going swimming after that!



by Eric
Just wanted to say once again that you're wrong burningman.

http://faculty.biu.ac.il/~maeira/word_files/philistines.htm

Israel was around before the Philistines and the Philistines were not located in Israel, but adjacent to it. Get your facts straight before you spew your drivel to refute logical arguments.

"Sic semper tyranus!"
by Death Angel
I have great seport for Palestinians espasialy after Sep.11 when they dance in the streets while innocent Americans were burning in the buldings!!!!
by nastysk8er
This dumb cunt says she "doesn't support israel" and then prints a love letter to hateful murderers from a self hating "arab" (i doubt it) Kapitalist Kike Kocksucker. Mary, you're a fucking stupid dizzy bitch. Do us all a favor and keep whatever propagandistic disinformation and lies you happen to stumble across to yourself instead of vomiting it up here.

Oh, and to all the jews who always throw down the holocaust victim card to "justify" your murder and thievery, just wait. If you continue to deny the Palestinian people their land and the jew dream land of "israel" continues to exist, you will soon see a reality far more hellish than the horror-fantasy of 1930s -'40s Europe you cling to.
by Eric
Only after they boil the middle east with nukes nasty.
by nonpoint
hey nasty, thats a snazzy phrase you came up with - "Kapitalist Kike Kocksuckers". The deliberate (I assume) mis-spelling of the words to achieve the dreaded acronym "KKK" was particularly striking. While
reading your diatribe I couldn't help but hum that phrase to a tune in my head -

"I'm a member of the KKK, the Kapitalist Kike Kocksuckers of the U.S.A."

Needs work..

btw, seems a bit anti-semitic, no?
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