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Women In Black March for Peace

by :: hovering :: disposable Media technologies (hovering [at] disposableMedia.net)
Women In Black marched silently through downtown San Francisco Friday during the height of shopping mayhem. Their basic message - Choose life.
wib_sf112301_all.jpg
by brad
WIB = Whiny Ignorant Bitches
by freeways2 (bigbadbetty [at] planetout.com)
You have been officially CASTRATED by the WIB.

Submit and you will be spared, resist and you will face the wrath of women world wide.

End this violence once and for all; ABORT Your MALE Children. The male poulation must be decreased sufficiently to save the peoples of the planet.

LLA
by Lorena (lorenaasrael [at] yahoo.com.br)
Women in Black, thank you for your courage and bravery! You give me hope....
by Nickole
i also thank the women in black for their courage! they give us hope for the children and our future.

much love,
*nickole*
by eunich
Wow. The women in black send such a powerful message i'm surprised the bombing hasn't stopped by now. The image of 40-something-plus women wearing all black (the most scary color) carrying signs with strong slogans makes me wet my pants. That photo of the woman in a beret is particularly intimidating. If she hit you with that sign I'd bet it'd HURT! Is the (president-SELECT) Shrub paying attention? I bet he would change his tune really quick if he saw these warriors in full protest mode!
Please continue to march and march and march. You who participate in these acts of witness do very important work. Thank you and I wish you great success in the effort.
by the burningman
Thank you so much for your courage. The world is full of cowards in these dark days, of those who hide from their own best selves. Your anonymous actions allow us to see your moral point without demanding any explicit agenda be followed.

Keep it up and spread the word.
by saul (bukramuzik [at] nccn.net)
The WIB are an inspiration....
It's refreshing to see that NOT EVERYONE has been
blindfolded by "Old Glory"
by Cris (chongo [at] hotmail.com)
Silly, stuupid people, I hope you are the ones who die when we get nuked.

Terrorists are bad for children and other living things.

by Cris (chongo [at] hotmail.com)
Silly, stupid people, I hope you are the ones who die when we get nuked.

Terrorists are bad for children and other living things.

by Pierre
Black is a very "slimming" color, no?
by Claudia
In a sense I suppose it's a relief to see that despite the brave new world we supposedly live in there are people who can meet peaceful protest with derisive and innappropriate comments. Women in Black, thank god you stood up. It's about time more of us did.
by Patrick
It is wonderful that WIB are publicly engaging in actions that encourage peace. It is nice to have an alternative voice to the perpetual warmongering of our governement.
by Mike
Saw Women in Black for the first time, in Edmonton, AB, Canada. More power to them, may their numbers increase, good thing we have them here, may they keep on organizing and protesting. With success!
by liberals are idiots
Choose life? yet people on the right are vilified for standing against the genocide of abortion. And look at all the gooey talk from the cuddly aint that sweet crowd? To stand for the enemy gets more oohs and aahs than a newborn.
by X2
how is it possible to abort a "newborn"???????
what other stupid things can you say? let's see some.
by read my lips
That's the point, you complete buffoon. They never get to take their first breaths because of the liberals, the same liberals who support those who kill us. What's to get so gooey over traitors and anti-lifers? Jesus, but you really are in the stage of a coup at the Indy. nessie will send the goon squad after you.
by X2
again, for the freeper idiot brigade of one:

How is it possible to abort a "newborn"?????

I'll take any failure to answer that as an admission of stupidity.
by drek
PRO LIFE?

by Voula

The world population is now six billion and increasing at the rate of approximately 220,000 people every day. It took 100,000 years for the human population to reach two billion. In a single lifetime, that number has risen from two to six billion. The biblical adage "populate or perish" is a threat to every form of life on the planet.

Overpopulation and environmental destruction are the biggest issues facing humanity today. The Vatican's "pro life" stance (shared by anti-abortionists and various fundamentalist sects) is a threat to all forms of life including the human species. Despite the fact that the environmental and social consequences of overpopulation are well documented, the Vatican is still vehemently opposed to all forms of artificial contraceptives. The only method permitted by the Vatican is the rhythm method - otherwise known as "Vatican roulette"! For the Vatican to confront the issues of the environment, population and birth control, it would mean putting to rest the myth of papal infallibility and relinquishing absolute power over the lives of a billion people!

Since the Vatican - also known as "Holy See"- is treated as a state by the UN, it has the power to influence policy on birth control. In the past, the Vatican did not hesitate to form alliances with Muslim fundamentalist organizations in order to fight policies, such as "microcredit" in Bangladesh, aimed to enable poor women in impoverished countries to gain some degree of financial independence. Vatican delegates claimed that such policies would undermine the man's status as head of the family and therefore are harmful to the family unit. Recent attempts by the Vatican to form a dialogue with Islam, makes one wonder on their hidden motives! Roman Catholicism and Islam have been enemies for centuries. However, they are quite happy to put their differences aside when it comes to fighting against secularism, atheism and feminism! At the UN conference on population and development, Archbishop Renato Martino, head of the Holy See's delegation, stated that "the Vatican supported the advancement of women's level of education and healthcare" and made the admission that "the Holy See does not support procreation at all costs". However, the Holy See's condemnation of birth control contradicts all of the above. The role that the Vatican has played as an obstacle to AIDS education in Africa brings into question its moral right to a place in the UN and highlights the hypocrisy of its pro-life stance.

While the Vatican and its ideological allies, claim to be "pro family" and "pro life", that did not stop Pope John Paul II from supporting brutal and dictatorial regimes in Latin America and elsewhere. The Pope supports human rights only when the perpetrator is perceived as atheistic or Marxist, thus endangering the status of the church; he does not speak out against human rights abuses when the perpetrator is a right-wing regime, sympathetic to the Vatican's ultra- conservative beliefs. Not long ago, the Pope condemned UN agencies for providing Kosovo rape victims with "morning after pills", yet he did not utter a word to condemn the rapes, torture and ethnic cleansing. It is hypocritical for the Vatican to talk about human rights when it declined to sign the European Declaration on human rights. The reason for that is that canon law contradicts a range of human rights included in the European Declaration. Blind obedience to the injunction against birth control and women priests, has become THE test for loyalty to the Pope. In order for clergy to rise in the Church hierarchy they must fully submit to the Pope's injunction regarding birth control and women priests - in other words, place their brains in the food processor and press puree!

It does not seem to bother the Vatican that in many countries children are forced into prostitution and child labour. Millions of children are suffering from malnutrition, lack of basic health care and lack of education. In Rio de Janeiro "street children" are hunted down and shot by death squads. Rather than act on these appalling injustices the Pope, up until recently, travelled around the world in order to condemn contraceptives and abortion. Keeping women in their traditional/subservient roles far outweighs any concerns on the social and environmental problems caused by overpopulation. In many countries, cultural and religious beliefs are condemning women to perpetual child bearing, poor health, poverty and misery.

In the US, "pro life" fanatics are using arson, shooting and bombing to terrorise and kill abortion providers. There have been many bomb attacks on clinics and shootings of medical staff providing abortions. The reign of terror is not unlike that of Islamic fundamentalists in the Middle East. A terrorist organisation going by the name of "Army of God" has produced a manual that reads like a "how to" on making and detonating bombs. They actually advocate arson and bombing as well as murdering abortion providers. Medical staff and receptionists go to work every morning knowing that their lives will be at risk. On January 29, 1998, a bomb attack ended the life of an off-duty police officer and critically injured a nurse at a women's clinic in Birmingham. On October 23, 1998, an assassin shot and killed Dr. Slepian, a highly regarded ob-gyn. It is estimated that forty-three percent of American women will choose to have an abortion, for whatever reason, at least once during their lifetime. Outlawing abortion will not stop it from happening, it will only make it unsafe. Even in countries where abortion is punishable by death - such as the Philippines - abortion still takes place. The hypocrisy is appalling when you think that those who oppose abortion do absolutely nothing to make it less necessary. The same people who vote against women's abortion rights also want to slash family planning services so that women can't get contraceptives.

WHO estimates that 55 million abortions take place every year and around half are performed in unsafe conditions, usually because abortion is illegal or inaccessible - as many as 550 women die every day from trying to end unwanted pregnancies.

In the last few years, many US hospitals have been taken over by Catholic administration. As usual, the Catholic administration is forcing its religious beliefs on its patients. There was a case of a pregnant woman who was admitted to hospital with a haemorrhage. Even though her life was at risk the doctors would not perform an abortion since that would go against the Pope's teachings on abortion. The woman did finally get an abortion after her plight became public. In another case, a woman pregnant with her eighth child was refused a tubal ligation after the birth for the same reasons.

In the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, the Roman Catholic Church's "Sanctity of Life" dogma has been responsible for the deaths of many pregnant women. Sometimes during labour the head of the feotus would become stuck and could not be dislodged. The only way to save the woman was to perform a craniotomy, which involved crushing the skull of the feotus. Since devout Catholic doctors obeyed the church's "Sanctity of Life" dogma, the labouring women were condemned to slow and agonising deaths.

When anti-abortionists speak of "pro life", what they are referring to is human life, and specifically the life of the human feotus. They insist that the bible prohibits abortion and they quote the sixth commandment, "Thou shalt not kill" (Ex.20:13) as evidence. They ignore the bible's definition of life, and the fact that Mosaic law in Exodus 21:22-25, makes it clear that a feotus is not a human being: "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine". "And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth." While the bible orders the death penalty for murder of a human being ("Thou shalt not kill" only forbade the murder of already born Hebrews, it was open season for pagan tribes), it does not do so for the expulsion of a feotus. Jewish law traditionally considers that personhood begins at birth. As for the bible being "pro life", the following commandments speak for themselves:

"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones."

--- Numbers 31:17

"Slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."
--- 1 Samuel 15:3

"Dash their children, and rip up their women with child."
--- 2 Kings 8:12

"Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled and their wives ravished."
--- Isaiah 13:16

"They shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children."
--- Isaiah 13:18

"Slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children."
--- Ezekiel 9:6

"Their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up."
--- Hosea 13:16

The above verses are only a small sample of biblical commandments to commit violence and atrocities: Do not take my word for it, check them out! Anti-abortionists are not driven by love for children, but by hatred for women inherited from the bible. They are condemning women to the status of incubators by granting the fertilised egg/embryo the same rights as a three-year old child. Indeed, the bible is full of verses that demean and insult women. Organised religion always has been and remains the greatest enemy of women's rights.

It is not uncommon for anti-abortionists to express annoyance at people who spend time and resources trying to save whales, tigers and other endangered species, while an X number of babies are "murdered" by abortion every year. For anthropocentric, anti-abortionists the only life that has value is human life, and then only at the foetal stage. I have never heard of anti-abortionists condemning female infanticide in China and India, nor have they expressed any concern about the millions of children living in extreme poverty and squalor. Their warped, myopic and narrow view prevents them from realising that all forms of life from the most primitive to the most sophisticated are interconnected. Life is something that we share with all species and we become poorer every time a species becomes extinct.

It is no longer just the issue of a woman's right to choose the number of children that she will bear. There is the issue of what kind of future we wish our children to have, or rather, whether or not we will have a future! Anyone who claims that humans have a right to breed unhindered is ignorant, irresponsible and has no regard for all the other forms of life with which we share the planet. In countries where birth control is accessible and affordable there is no excuse for people not to limit their families. We have a moral obligation towards other species and future generations to limit our numbers.

Ultra-conservative women, who blindly obey the Pope's command and produce litters of children, are not averse to attack women who use contraceptives to limit their families. They often accuse women who use birth control of being selfish, self-centred, anti-family and unwomanly. If every couple on earth obeyed the Vatican's injunction on birth control, the world population would double in less than twenty years. All other forms of life would become extinct except for the ones used for human consumption. The earth would be a giant feedlot and we would all be living like ants in concrete jungles. Some short-sighted "experts" have made claims that the earth could support 12 billion. They obviously did not take into account the rapidly changing weather pattern due to deforestation and greenhouse gasses, desertification, depletion of aquifers, soil degradation, not to mention the unknown impact that genetically engineered foods will have on future food production.

http://www.atheistfoundation.org.au/prolife.htm
by me
Who said anything about "aborting a newborn", you complete mental cripple?
by X2
"the genocide of abortion. And look at all the gooey talk from the cuddly aint that sweet crowd? To stand for the enemy gets more oohs and aahs than a newborn"

maybe we're not the cuddly aint that sweet crowd you'd like us to be, for starters. Maybe our dynamic is a little more complicated than that - beyond your comprehension, perhaps, thus the need to simplify.

Now onto the newborn issue. Abortion does not involve newborns, obviously. Yet you, above, seem to claim it does. Can you clarify? I would like to know how you abort a newborn.
by confused
I'm sure the Muslim religion is a save haven for womyn. Why only the lopsided bullshit about Christians? Let's hear it for how the Muslims view their children. Mutilation. That sort of thing.

I love the pious liberals.
by me
That is, except for complete mental cripples. I guess your one of those who smell colors or something.
I guess I will need to show you the relevant section of the above article since your reading comprehension skills are extremely deficient.

"In the past, the Vatican did not hesitate to form alliances with Muslim fundamentalist organizations in order to fight policies, such as "microcredit" in Bangladesh, aimed to enable poor women in impoverished countries to gain some degree of financial independence. Vatican delegates claimed that such policies would undermine the man's status as head of the family and therefore are harmful to the family unit. Recent attempts by the Vatican to form a dialogue with Islam, makes one wonder on their hidden motives! Roman Catholicism and Islam have been enemies for centuries. However, they are quite happy to put their differences aside when it comes to fighting against secularism, atheism and feminism! "

Now what part of that were you unable to comprehend?
by X2
can you explain how your comment is not what it would seem to be? No? 4th time I'm asking now.
By the way are you making fun of retarded people? How juvenile. Your true colours show. I think your Tarnung slipped, mr "kill the cripples" freep creep.
by me
Your an idiot. You say I'm making fun of retards all of a sudden. Remember you used the words"stupid bastard" and "what other stupid things can you say".

Let me guess. You'll say you didn't. But of course, since your a brain dead bastard. Oops, my bad. Your just a retarded bastard.
by me
Your an idiot. You say I'm making fun of retards all of a sudden. Remember you used the words"stupid bastard" and "what other stupid things can you say".

Let me guess. You'll say you didn't. But of course, since your a brain dead bastard. Oops, my bad. Your just a retarded bastard.
by me
Your an idiot. You say I'm making fun of retards all of a sudden. Remember you used the words"stupid bastard" and "what other stupid things can you say".

Let me guess. You'll say you didn't. But of course, since your a brain dead bastard. Oops, my bad. Your just a retarded bastard.
by X2
gotcha.
stupid and retarded are two different things.
When someone is stupid, its a matter of choice and laziness.
Now piss off you Nazi cripple abuser. Its because of horrid little vicious shits like you that disabled people, some of whom became that way fighting for your freedom to live, have to live a life of abuse and neglect and suffering. Do you beat on vets with head injuries for fun you vicious little bag of goat feces?
by X2
ohhhhh i see. So anyone who stands up for, say, disabled war vets is 'nessie'. You're a little snot and nobody, neither here nor in the real world, cares about you. Just do us a favour and kill yourself now, rather than in 6 months. i bet you're one of those decrepit little fucks that makes their mother cry on a regular basis.
by his biggest fan
Please will your brain to science. Otherwise they'll never have such a chance to study such a complete vaccuum. Even the space between the stars isnt so void.
by X2
still can't answer the question. How many questions is that of mine you can't answer now, about 456,948 or so? You SUCK at this.
by mature fellow
Yeah, and my creating words hasn't helped my maturity level either. I feel so down, so utterly useless, like a liberal. And I stink too, just like liberals, who run in terror at the mention of hygiene.
by spooked
You know what's really scarey about those womyn in black pictures? Theyre actually stark naked! The black is from the lefts fear of soap. Either that, or it's a slick of Evil come over them.

Theyre your kind of "womyn", X2. That is, unless you have hardons for Hussein instead.
by spooked
also, aliens are responsible for 911 and I am a flying carrot with ESP. If you people can't see this you are all liberals denying the obvious.
by womyns champion
http://www.news.com.au/common/printpage/0,6093,5053202,00.html
by koli
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by Voula

The world population is now six billion and increasing at the rate of approximately 220,000 people every day. It took 100,000 years for the human population to reach two billion. In a single lifetime, that number has risen from two to six billion. The biblical adage "populate or perish" is a threat to every form of life on the planet.

Overpopulation and environmental destruction are the biggest issues facing humanity today. The Vatican's "pro life" stance (shared by anti-abortionists and various fundamentalist sects) is a threat to all forms of life including the human species. Despite the fact that the environmental and social consequences of overpopulation are well documented, the Vatican is still vehemently opposed to all forms of artificial contraceptives. The only method permitted by the Vatican is the rhythm method - otherwise known as "Vatican roulette"! For the Vatican to confront the issues of the environment, population and birth control, it would mean putting to rest the myth of papal infallibility and relinquishing absolute power over the lives of a billion people!

Since the Vatican - also known as "Holy See"- is treated as a state by the UN, it has the power to influence policy on birth control. In the past, the Vatican did not hesitate to form alliances with Muslim fundamentalist organizations in order to fight policies, such as "microcredit" in Bangladesh, aimed to enable poor women in impoverished countries to gain some degree of financial independence. Vatican delegates claimed that such policies would undermine the man's status as head of the family and therefore are harmful to the family unit. Recent attempts by the Vatican to form a dialogue with Islam, makes one wonder on their hidden motives! Roman Catholicism and Islam have been enemies for centuries. However, they are quite happy to put their differences aside when it comes to fighting against secularism, atheism and feminism! At the UN conference on population and development, Archbishop Renato Martino, head of the Holy See's delegation, stated that "the Vatican supported the advancement of women's level of education and healthcare" and made the admission that "the Holy See does not support procreation at all costs". However, the Holy See's condemnation of birth control contradicts all of the above. The role that the Vatican has played as an obstacle to AIDS education in Africa brings into question its moral right to a place in the UN and highlights the hypocrisy of its pro- life stance.

While the Vatican and its ideological allies, claim to be "pro family" and "pro life", that did not stop Pope John Paul II from supporting brutal and dictatorial regimes in Latin America and elsewhere. The Pope supports human rights only when the perpetrator is perceived as atheistic or Marxist, thus endangering the status of the church; he does not speak out against human rights abuses when the perpetrator is a right-wing regime, sympathetic to the Vatican's ultra- conservative beliefs. Not long ago, the Pope condemned UN agencies for providing Kosovo rape victims with "morning after pills", yet he did not utter a word to condemn the rapes, torture and ethnic cleansing. It is hypocritical for the Vatican to talk about human rights when it declined to sign the European Declaration on human rights. The reason for that is that canon law contradicts a range of human rights included in the European Declaration. Blind obedience to the injunction against birth control and women priests, has become THE test for loyalty to the Pope. In order for clergy to rise in the Church hierarchy they must fully submit to the Pope's injunction regarding birth control and women priests - in other words, place their brains in the food processor and press puree!

It does not seem to bother the Vatican that in many countries children are forced into prostitution and child labour. Millions of children are suffering from malnutrition, lack of basic health care and lack of education. In Rio de Janeiro "street children" are hunted down and shot by death squads. Rather than act on these appalling injustices the Pope, up until recently, travelled around the world in order to condemn contraceptives and abortion. Keeping women in their traditional/subservient roles far outweighs any concerns on the social and environmental problems caused by overpopulation. In many countries, cultural and religious beliefs are condemning women to perpetual child bearing, poor health, poverty and misery.

In the US, "pro life" fanatics are using arson, shooting and bombing to terrorise and kill abortion providers. There have been many bomb attacks on clinics and shootings of medical staff providing abortions. The reign of terror is not unlike that of Islamic fundamentalists in the Middle East. A terrorist organisation going by the name of "Army of God" has produced a manual that reads like a "how to" on making and detonating bombs. They actually advocate arson and bombing as well as murdering abortion providers. Medical staff and receptionists go to work every morning knowing that their lives will be at risk. On January 29, 1998, a bomb attack ended the life of an off-duty police officer and critically injured a nurse at a women's clinic in Birmingham. On October 23, 1998, an assassin shot and killed Dr. Slepian, a highly regarded ob-gyn. It is estimated that forty-three percent of American women will choose to have an abortion, for whatever reason, at least once during their lifetime. Outlawing abortion will not stop it from happening, it will only make it unsafe. Even in countries where abortion is punishable by death - such as the Philippines - abortion still takes place. The hypocrisy is appalling when you think that those who oppose abortion do absolutely nothing to make it less necessary. The same people who vote against women's abortion rights also want to slash family planning services so that women can't get contraceptives.

WHO estimates that 55 million abortions take place every year and around half are performed in unsafe conditions, usually because abortion is illegal or inaccessible - as many as 550 women die every day from trying to end unwanted pregnancies.

In the last few years, many US hospitals have been taken over by Catholic administration. As usual, the Catholic administration is forcing its religious beliefs on its patients. There was a case of a pregnant woman who was admitted to hospital with a haemorrhage. Even though her life was at risk the doctors would not perform an abortion since that would go against the Pope's teachings on abortion. The woman did finally get an abortion after her plight became public. In another case, a woman pregnant with her eighth child was refused a tubal ligation after the birth for the same reasons.

In the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, the Roman Catholic Church's "Sanctity of Life" dogma has been responsible for the deaths of many pregnant women. Sometimes during labour the head of the feotus would become stuck and could not be dislodged. The only way to save the woman was to perform a craniotomy, which involved crushing the skull of the feotus. Since devout Catholic doctors obeyed the church's "Sanctity of Life" dogma, the labouring women were condemned to slow and agonising deaths.

When anti-abortionists speak of "pro life", what they are referring to is human life, and specifically the life of the human feotus. They insist that the bible prohibits abortion and they quote the sixth commandment, "Thou shalt not kill" (Ex.20:13) as evidence. They ignore the bible's definition of life, and the fact that Mosaic law in Exodus 21:22-25, makes it clear that a feotus is not a human being: "If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine". "And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth." While the bible orders the death penalty for murder of a human being ("Thou shalt not kill" only forbade the murder of already born Hebrews, it was open season for pagan tribes), it does not do so for the expulsion of a feotus. Jewish law traditionally considers that personhood begins at birth. As for the bible being "pro life", the following commandments speak for themselves:

"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones."

--- Numbers 31:17

"Slay both man and woman, infant and suckling."
--- 1 Samuel 15:3

"Dash their children, and rip up their women with child."
--- 2 Kings 8:12

"Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled and their wives ravished."
--- Isaiah 13:16

"They shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children."
--- Isaiah 13:18

"Slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children."
--- Ezekiel 9:6

"Their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up."
--- Hosea 13:16

The above verses are only a small sample of biblical commandments to commit violence and atrocities: Do not take my word for it, check them out! Anti- abortionists are not driven by love for children, but by hatred for women inherited from the bible. They are condemning women to the status of incubators by granting the fertilised egg/embryo the same rights as a three-year old child. Indeed, the bible is full of verses that demean and insult women. Organised religion always has been and remains the greatest enemy of women's rights.

It is not uncommon for anti-abortionists to express annoyance at people who spend time and resources trying to save whales, tigers and other endangered species, while an X number of babies are "murdered" by abortion every year. For anthropocentric, anti-abortionists the only life that has value is human life, and then only at the foetal stage. I have never heard of anti-abortionists condemning female infanticide in China and India, nor have they expressed any concern about the millions of children living in extreme poverty and squalor. Their warped, myopic and narrow view prevents them from realising that all forms of life from the most primitive to the most sophisticated are interconnected. Life is something that we share with all species and we become poorer every time a species becomes extinct.

It is no longer just the issue of a woman's right to choose the number of children that she will bear. There is the issue of what kind of future we wish our children to have, or rather, whether or not we will have a future! Anyone who claims that humans have a right to breed unhindered is ignorant, irresponsible and has no regard for all the other forms of life with which we share the planet. In countries where birth control is accessible and affordable there is no excuse for people not to limit their families. We have a moral obligation towards other species and future generations to limit our numbers.

Ultra-conservative women, who blindly obey the Pope's command and produce litters of children, are not averse to attack women who use contraceptives to limit their families. They often accuse women who use birth control of being selfish, self-centred, anti-family and unwomanly. If every couple on earth obeyed the Vatican's injunction on birth control, the world population would double in less than twenty years. All other forms of life would become extinct except for the ones used for human consumption. The earth would be a giant feedlot and we would all be living like ants in concrete jungles. Some short-sighted "experts" have made claims that the earth could support 12 billion. They obviously did not take into account the rapidly changing weather pattern due to deforestation and greenhouse gasses, desertification, depletion of aquifers, soil degradation, not to mention the unknown impact that genetically engineered foods will have on future food production.

http://www.atheistfoundation.org.au/prolife.htm
by Spider Dude
They look like ugly goth chicks!
Somewhere in the pentagon:
Officer: "egad sir! there whearing all black!"
General: "This is more serious then I thought!Pull everything out now!"
Somewhere in a cave in Afganistan:
Osama Bin Laden:"Ha,Ha,Ha, the plan is working!"
by Spider Dude
They look like ugly goth chicks!
Somewhere in the pentagon:
Officer: "egad sir! there whearing all black!"
General: "This is more serious then I thought!Pull everything out now!"
Somewhere in a cave in Afganistan:
Osama Bin Laden:"Ha,Ha,Ha, the plan is working!"
by ....
The only way to deal with trolls is to limit your reaction to reminding others not to respond to trolls.
by Kel
Regardless of being "left" or "right," whether you believe in the death penalty and pro-life, or against it and pro-choice, (both sides contradict each other,) war is the destruction of human life.

I don't recall that WIB took a stand of either "left" or "right" just anti-war. For that, they have my support.
If you want to have some ideas of what the United States looks like to the rest of the world (most of whom have actually experienced warfare on their soil, unlike most of us,) check out the following link

http://www.sumeria.net/politics/usa.html
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